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Postby jancar » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:19 pm

I know I'm most probably asking the impossible, but would there be any birth records for someone who was born in West Indies in 1790.

Also are there Marriage records for that time. Would there be Naval records of this time for people who travelled from England to West Indies.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: BMDs

Postby bimjim » Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:12 pm

For any records check the IGI first, but do your best to verify what you find there - anyone can upload records to the IGI, and experienced researchers are aware of undocumented and incorrect "wishful thinking" which corrupts the accuracy of personal family trees (trying to connecting to royalty and/or famous people, etc.).
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Search/ ... ch_IGI.asp

Otherwise, it depends on the country... for instance, in Barbados you should look for Joann Macree Sanders' "Barbados Records", about 5 or 6 books with BMD and even Wills. Also look for Brandow's "Genealogies of Barbados Families".

For some records of this time for people who travelled from England to "America" (Caribbean and the American Colonies), look for a book named "Hotten's Lists" and the "Addendum to Hotten's Lists". It's quite a famous book and should be readily available in reprints.

I republished VL Oliver's "History of Antigua" (a 3-volume genealogy reference set covering the British administrative base of Antigua and many islands west of there) and "Caribbeana" (an 8-volume set of newsletters, most indexed). Both were published about 1900, and covered a great deal of family tree ground. "History of Antigua" is now out of print, and after I have sold the last 3 sets of "Caribbeana" I will not be printing any more.

For Barbados I also sell David Kent's "Barbados and America", which contains multiple census for Barbados.

If you can tell me what island you are interested in I may be able to offer more advice and/or connect you to a competent and reasonable researcher, but I have found those are very few in the islands.

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Re: BMDs

Postby jancar » Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:03 pm

Hi Jim,

Thanks for this info. Unfortunately, I have no idea what place in the West Indies that Alice Senior was born. I did think at one time that I had found something in one of the English census reports where she gave her birth place as Bickington, West Indies, whether this was a mistake by the person filling in the form I don't know, but I've never been able to find it.

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Re: BMDs

Postby bimjim » Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:52 pm

What are the names you are looking for?
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Re: BMDs

Postby jancar » Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:58 pm

Richard Senior and Alice Senior, his daughter. Richard was a Naval Officer. Afraid this is all I have, except they were possible of the Jewish faith, probably Sephardic Jews of Spanish ancestory.
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Re: BMDs

Postby bimjim » Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:30 am

I know there is a present-day Senior family in Trinidad. I don't know how long they have been there.


Going by the Indexes of the following books...

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There are no entries for a Senior in VL Oliver's "History of Antigua".

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In "Jewish Monumental Inscriptions of Barbados" there is entry # 254 which describes a tombstone:

Sa / DE HANAH Fa... JOSEPH / SENIOR FALESEO
EM ... / DE TEBET 5440

Burial Register: 5440 11 Tebet Hannah child of Joseph Ealeso [!SENIOR]

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In VL Oliver's "Caribbeana", Volume 1 page 120 is a reference to an Elizabeth Senior.

Volume 2 shows Senior's Bernard martin, Elizabeth, James Gale, Laetetia Maria, Letitia and Louis Goodin all on page 308.

Volume 3 shows an Isaac Senyor on page 35.

Volume 4 shows a family tree for Senior, along with first names Ascanius, Ascanius Wm., Charlotte, Christopher, Elizabeth, Baldrick, Frances, Henrietta, John Raven, Nasau Thomas, Rachel and Robert Keith.

Volume 5 shows Senior's Ascanius William, Charlotte, Helen, Jacob, James, Nassau, Nassau Thomas and Thomas.

Volume 6 shows Senior's Cha. and Mary.

Volume 7 has two books and indexes, but Senior does not show in either.

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Brandow's "Genealogies of Barbados Families" shows Senior's Ascanius Wm, Charlotte, Rev. James and Nassau, but most of those could be references to the Caribbeana entries.

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I believe the Jewish and one other faith in the Colonies kept their own records, until central recording was mandated by law. So it could be that the Jewish communities have stored those records somewhere, or they could still be in the Temples, such as the one in Barbados.

There are a couple of users here who specialise in Jewish ancestry... maybe one of them has info that could help you. But if you recognise any of the names I mentioned above please let me know and I will try to find time to get you the info from the pages.

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Re: BMDs

Postby jancar » Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:03 am

Hi Jim,

Really appreciate your time and effort on my behalf, but unfortunately, I don't recognise any of the names you have mentioned.

If I do come across anything useful I will let you know.

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Re: BMDs

Postby bimjim » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:36 pm

I suggested the IGI above...
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Search/ ... ch_IGI.asp

Where I found these among a total of 100 listed...

4. Alice Senior - Birth: 06 MAR 1887 Logwood Penn,Westmoreland, Jamaica, Caribbean
Parents: Mother: Elizabeth Kerr

5. Alice Rubena Senior - Birth: 01 NOV 1889 Blakes Pen,Watson'S Hill,Manchester, Jamaica, Caribbean
Parents: Mother: Jane Elizabeth Senior

6. Alice Senior - Birth: 10 FEB 1889 Resource,New Broughton,Manchester, Jamaica, Caribbean
Parents: Mother: Eliza Senior

83. Richard Senior - Birth: About 1803 Willemstad,Curacao, Netherlands Antilles, Caribbean
Marriages: Spouse: Maria Casilia Specht Marriage: 04 SEP 1833 Willemstad,Curacao, Netherlands Antilles, Caribbean
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Re: Re Richard Senior

Postby jancar » Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:08 am

Hi Jim,

I now have some more info that might help the search -

Apparently, Richard Senior, b 1764, yorkshire and died 1835 Sheerness, Kent,England, married a Judah or Judith on St. Kitts in 1788. Judith? was born in St. Christopher on St. Kitts. According to my source they had four children.

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Re: BMDs

Postby UKborn » Thu May 03, 2012 2:41 am

Hello
I am new to this site but I am also researching this family. Alice Senior was born 1790 in Bickington, West Indies and married William Henry Harwood in England. I have further details if anyone would like. These were my 4 x great grandparents. I do not know when Alice went to England but the info supplied here suggests the family moved to England at some point. If anyone has info, I would love to share what I have.

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Re: BMDs

Postby bimjim » Thu May 03, 2012 11:42 am

You can do a free search of UK registers (the ones which have been transcribed by volunteers here...
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

There is another for the The Official Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial BMDs, but I'm not sure they are free...
http://www.bmdregisters.co.uk/

For BMD listings just Google "BMD" and the country location you are interested in... I could find the two above by Googling "BMD UK" (in all cases above without the quotations).
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Re: BMDs

Postby fergs » Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:42 am

Hi Jim,

I am looking for BMD in Grenda and St. Lucia 1800's - 1875 era. Great great grandather was William La Grenada Mitchell early 1800's to 1875 when he emigrated to New Zealand. His wife was Mary Ann Wells (St LUcia), they married Grenada 1871. Where would I look for ships manifest registry available for the 1875 era?

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Re: BMDs

Postby bimjim » Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:15 pm

Most of the Caribbean - to my knowledge - is in the IGI. With so small a population - and a stifling bureaucracy, even now - there is little reason for anyone to go transcribing records. The IGI - by the Mormons - is only there because they have their religious reasons for doing that filming. There are those who disagree with the reasons, but if not for them many of our records would be long gone.

A few of the islands, notably Jamaica, Bartbados and Antigua, have found people who wanted to do the work and we have benefited from it. Vere Langford Oliver did travel quite a bit, but he tended to gather most of his information in the larger, more populated islands. I think i went through his books already for your names.

So I would suggest you do some work in the IGI - it is free, and it is easily the largest genealogy database in the world. Other than that, seek out a researcher in your location, describe what you want, get a quote, and have them do the work for you - it's cheaper than visiting there yourself and easier on the nerves than struggling with frustrating idiot clerks and pedantic 300-year-old library organisation and rules.
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Re: BMDs

Postby Sivam » Tue Jan 01, 2013 1:57 am

Re. Richard Senior father of Alice Harwood:- Very interested to gain information here and especially the fact that UKborn has more information. Alice and William were my ggg grandparents, would love to know exactly where in the West Indies she was from. sivam. :?:
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Re: BMDs

Postby Sivam » Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:54 am

Bimjim:- Reading through your information again, 'Charlotte' is a name from the early 1800's for our family in this line, thankyou for all your research. :P
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