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WILES - Jamaica

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:30 pm
by AlanB
My 3rd Gt grandmother was Ann WILES born 1808 Jamaica. I am attempting to see a connection between her and Elizabeth WILES, born 1810 in Jamaica.

Elizabeth was the mother of Joseph EMSLEY who married my 2nd Great Grand Aunt Sarah WILKINS.

Ann WILES married a Frederick FRY in 1836 at St. Mary’s, Paddington, London . Their daughter Mary Anne FRY my 2nd Gt Grandmother was born 1838 at Brompton London.

John WILKINS, a brother to Sarah WILKINS the wife of Joseph EMSLEY.

Both Elizabeth b.1810 and Ann b.1808 were born in Jamaica.

Is there anyone who can help me make the connection?

Many thanks

Alanb

Re: WILES - Jamaica

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:03 am
by wellygirl
Hello Alan,
You've made contact with me via Ancestry.co.uk now, but I went back to your post here in relation to a post I put a couple of years' ago.

These relatives I haven't heard of but it is interesting that you have found Edward Octavius Wiles, who is my Gt Grandfather. I find it very hard outside of family letters, of which we only have a few; the rest being interred at Cambridge and Oxford University Libraries, to find much information about the Barbados families - births, marriages etc.

We know we have the ancestry and can prove it through family in Cambridge but come up against many stumbling blocks. Will see what your cousin can come up with.

Regards
Yolande

Re: WILES - Jamaica

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:36 am
by Jenny McCalla
My grandfather's name was Johnny Wiles and he lived in Kingston, Jamaica up until the 1950's. He used to work as a Tailor on Harbour St. Kingston, Jamaica. In his later years he came to live with his daughter, my mother Beryl Joyce Wiles McCalla, in Grierfield, Moneague, St. Ann, Jamaica, where he died and was buried. He had a sister, I believe, by the name of Sarah Dearing. Outside of Family, I have never met anyone with the name 'Wiles'.
As a child, I remember hearing stories about ancestors coming over on the ship with Captain Bligh, that they brought the breadfruit plant to the West Indies and to Jamaica.
Grandfather was married to Doris Plummer from Manchester, Jamaica, and together they had 12 children. I had and knew lots of aunts and uncles many of whom travelled to the UK and USA in the 50's and 60's. Most of them have passed on now but there are still a few alive.

Re: WILES - Jamaica

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:15 am
by bimjim
There was/is a Wiles family in Barbados.

Re: WILES - Jamaica

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:07 pm
by Jenny McCalla
I wonder if they know of or ever had any relatives here in Jamaica? It would be good to hear.
Many thanks for your quick response.

Re: WILES - Jamaica

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:21 pm
by bimjim
I found three Barbados Wiles names on Facebook - they are Friends of my Friends, and so good candidates - so try to find them and send them enquiry messages there...

Tonya Cruz (Tonya Wiles)
Susan Wiles
Gail Wiles

Good luck...

Re: WILES - Jamaica

PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:08 pm
by FelixHyl
My Great Grandmother's name was Edith Wiles and she live in Kingston on Cassia Park Road, but she was born in the Gordon Town , Content Gap area of St. Andrew. Yesterday I found a marriage record for her and it lists her father as Joseph Wiles. Does anyone have any connections to the Wiles from that area ?

Re: WILES - Jamaica

PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:30 pm
by Jenny McCalla
Many thanks for this. All the Wiles are related, I believe, and Joseph Wiles was a name that came up when I was searching for Johnny Wiles, my grandfather.

Re: WILES - Jamaica

PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 2:44 am
by patmar
James Wiles was the botanist on Captain Bligh's 'Bounty' who brought the breadfruit to Jamaica. He established several botanical gardens there including Honeywell. I knew his descendants very well. He had a great great grand son Henry who worked at the newspaper the Gleaner Company for years. His son Alan wrote poetry. I am wondering if there is any connection between these 'Jamaican' Wiles and Sir Andrew Wiles who was just awarded the Norwegian Abel prize for solving Fermat's Last Theorem?

Re: WILES - Jamaica

PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 1:41 am
by Jenny McCalla
Many thanks for this. I was wondering as well, about the possible connection with this Abel prize winner, Sir Andrew Wiles. It would be good to know.
Something tells me that all Wiles are related. My grandfather was Johnny Wiles, a tailor who worked on Harbour St. in the 50's and early 60''s ( ?) and he had 12 - twelve - children including my mother Beryl Wiles, with his wife Doris ( nee James/Plummer of Evergreen, Manchester, Jamaica). Doris died in NY


Jennifer Wiles McCalla Smith

Re: WILES - Jamaica

PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:19 am
by wellygirl
I haven't checked this feed for a while and there are quite a few posts.
Hello Patmar and Jenny McCalla.
I've been researching the Wiles family for the last 8 years, my mother is direct descendant of Edward Octavius Wiles through her maternal line, which makes the James Wiles you mention (botanist) my 4th Gt Uncle.
To clarify facts about him; he traveled with Capt Bligh on the HMS Providence (not HMS Bounty, although Capt Bligh was the leader of that expedition) with Matthew Flinders, to bring plants, including breadfruit to the plantations, for food for the plantation workers. Matthew Flinders went on to circumnavigate Australia and named a bay after his good friend James - Cape Wiles; on southern coast, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Wiles

Sir Andrew Wiles did indeed solve Fermat's Theorum and is my 3rd cousin, I am in contact with the sister of his sister-in-law. Both Wiles brothers are very busy and quite introspective fellows, so the wives help me out. :-)

I've struggled to unravel the Barbados Wiles' mysteries and the Wiles family are spread far and wide. I'm in New Zealand and there are many here, as well as UK, USA, South Africa, Australia, Ireland and many others.

From my research and the work of a genealogist, there are two Wiles family trees in Barbados, each with a William Wiles. The two trees come from a different point but then both converge and have Edward Octavius Wiles as the common person and it then joins. It would be very useful for all the descendants, if we could unravel this mysterious William Wiles (1773-1816). He married Ann Barker (1775-?).

I have a closed group on Facebook for all Wiles descendants and you are welcome to join. We are all trying to unravel our various family trees, letters, notes and stories.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/WilesFamily/

Yolande

Re: WILES - Jamaica

PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:27 am
by wellygirl
Jenny McCalla wrote:Many thanks for this. I was wondering as well, about the possible connection with this Abel prize winner, Sir Andrew Wiles. It would be good to know.
Something tells me that all Wiles are related. My grandfather was Johnny Wiles, a tailor who worked on Harbour St. in the 50's and early 60''s ( ?) and he had 12 - twelve - children including my mother Beryl Wiles, with his wife Doris ( nee James/Plummer of Evergreen, Manchester, Jamaica). Doris died in NY


Jennifer Wiles McCalla Smith


Sir Andrew John Wiles (the mathematician) is 3rd Gt nephew to James Wiles (1768-1851), the botanist.
I don't have a Beryl Wiles in my tree, can you give some more detail to your line of Wiles'?
Thanks
Yolande

Re: WILES - Jamaica

PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 2:56 am
by Jenny McCalla
Wellygirl, thanks for your input.

My mother Beryl Joyce Wiles is one of 12 siblings. (She had other siblings by the name of Curling). Doris Wiles was her mother and her father was John Gilbert Wiles. They were all born in Jamaica and most of them migrated to the UK and USA in the early 60's and late 50's. Beryl's siblings, my aunts and uncles are: Gwen, Dolly, Rose, Pat, Karl, Gloria, Velma. Velma and Dolly are still alive. Beryl died in NY in 2001.
Dawn Applebee, a cousin, has done extensive research on the Wiles tree. She lives in the UK.

Jenny McCalla